Tin whistle
penny whistle
- Range
- D5–D7
- Sources
- 66 independent: not from a mic maker
What it is
A six-hole fipple flute of metal or plastic, central to Irish and Scottish traditional music. Also called penny whistle, Irish whistle; low whistles are longer and wider and sound an octave or more lower.7
Also called penny whistle.
Range
D5 to D77587 Hz – 2.35 kHz
D whistle; low whistles go an octave or more lower
- Low whistle in D: a composers' range chart lists the low D whistle's lowest note as D4 and the D tin whistle's as D5; top not given8
The sound
Air through a fixed windway (the fipple) hits a sharp edge at the window; opening holes from the bottom shortens the tube; the upper octave is reached by blowing harder. Clarke-style rolled-metal whistles sound airier and less pure than cylindrical Generation-style whistles.7
Where the sound goes
Sources disagree on where the sound comes out. Jeff Kaufman, a contra-dance sound engineer, says for flutes, recorders and whistles the most consistent sound comes from the hole at the top by the player's mouth, with the rest only setting the standing-wave length. Paul Stamler says for woodwinds generally most of the sound comes from the first open hole (that is, not the mouthpiece or end), so a mic about a foot over the hands gets a rich sound with little breath noise. A forum poster says the sound comes out of the windway, so that is the part to hold close to the mic.2,6,1
About the range
A D whistle plays D5 to D7, two octaves; low whistles go down by an octave or more.7
How loud
Sound pressure level measurements as published. Different kinds of figure (a playing level, a peak, a dose at the player's ear) can't be compared with each other, and neither can figures at different distances.
| Playing level | |
|---|---|
| 52–66 dB | at 1 m; Generation D whistle, notes from low D to high G (low D 52, low G 53, high D 59, high G 66, high B 64 dB), measured with the Sound Meter Lite app on a phone9 |
| 68–92 dB | at 0.61 m; Generation G whistle at 2 ft: common notes 68-72 dB, A5 92 dB10 |
| 74–104 dB | at 0.61 m; Susato G whistle (medium bore) at 2 ft: common notes 74-76 dB, A5 104 dB; a very-small-bore Susato G read 76-82 dB on common notes10 |
Only informal phone-meter readings: a Generation D whistle at 52-66 dB at 1 m, and G whistles at 68-76 dB on common notes at 2 ft (0.6 m), up to 92-104 dB on A5. The high octave is shrill; Chiff & Fipple posters use a compressor to level low and high notes and tame the top octave.4,1
Recording it
A poster on Chiff & Fipple says small-diaphragm condensers are said to suit woodwinds slightly better than large ones, and names budget picks (AT2035, MXL 770 and 990, Rode NT1, a Shure SM58 if you want a dynamic). One player who tried an AKG C414 XLS, an SM57, an Audix VX-10, a Beyerdynamic M58 and a large ribbon (NoHype LRM-V) found the ribbon tamed the piercing frequencies politely, with the C414 close but "a tad too truthful"; he cautions against putting a ribbon in a direct air stream. The same thread advises trying 3 in to 2 ft, and aiming the window at, slightly off, or 90 degrees away from the mic. Search-result text from other Chiff & Fipple threads (pages not opened) gives 12-18 in out and above the window, side-address condensers, and an SM58 about two feet away. Bartlett: for woodwinds a flat condenser about 12 in from the tone holes; for a flute, halfway between mouthpiece and tone holes, 6-12 in. Stamler: a KM 84 or MK-012 about a foot above the hands. Use a foam windscreen to cut breath noise.4,5,6,2
Mics
- 12 setups from 6 sources, 6 of them independent of any mic maker.
- On top: the mics more than one source names for this instrument, in any role, the most named first. That is a count of sources, not our verdict.
- In the full list, each mic shows how many sources name it for that role, and how many of those come from a mic maker.
- Shure SM58 2 sourcesClose
All the mics sources name, by setting and role (10)
On stage
Close
- Sennheiser e9451 source
- Shure SM571 source
- Shure SM581 source
- Shure SM861 source
The 6 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Close Shure SM58live, ~1 in (3 cm) from the window, 60-90 degrees
I generally use a Shure 58 vocal mic and am very happy with it; it means I can also do background vocals through the same mic.
1 - Clip-on clip-on flute mic (strap or clamp type)clip-on
One suggestion has been to use a flute mic (the strap/clamp on type); instrument mics should capture the frequency much better.
1 - Close cardioid dynamic with foam windscreen, pointed at the top holeclose, live dance
The most consistent sound comes out the hole at the top by the player's mouth; a foam windscreen can help cut breathing noise.
2 - Close Shure SM57close, close for the low octave, back off for the shrill high octave
One SM57 for whistle and vocals; close for the lower octave, back off for the high octave (paraphrase).
3 - Close Sennheiser e945listed
A good vocal mic does the job; the e945 named (paraphrase).
3 - Close Shure SM86listed, a stage condenser as an upgrade
Suggested as a stage condenser upgrade over a dynamic (paraphrase).
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Studio and stage
Close
- AKG C3000B1 source
- Shure SM581 source
The 2 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Close AKG C3000B8-12 in away, about 3 in for low notes
I use an AKG C3000B for both whistle and bagpipes, at about 8-12 in away, closer for lower octave stuff.
1 - Close Shure SM58studio, budget; or live close
If you want a dynamic just go SM58, it is incredibly popular (forum poster).
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Studio
Named, no placement given
- Audio-Technica AT20351 source
Close
- AKG C414 XLS1 source
- Neumann KM 841 source
- NoHype Audio LRM-V1 source
- Oktava MK-0121 source
The 4 setups behind this: placement and quotes
- Named, no placement given Audio-Technica AT2035studio, budget
AT2035 is a super popular budget condenser (forum poster, for tin whistle).
4 - Close NoHype Audio LRM-V or AKG C414 XLSclose, studio
The ribbon mic controls the tone of the whistle in a polite manner; the C414 XLS comes close but is a tad too truthful. ... The AKG C414 XLS comes close, but it is a tad too truthful and does not tame some of the piercing frequencies.
4 - Close flat (boundary) condenser, about 12 in from the tone holes (woodwinds)close
Woodwinds: place a flat condenser about 12 inches from the tone holes.
5 - Close Neumann KM 84 or Oktava MK-012about a foot above the hands (woodwinds)
Mic a flute from above with a KM 84 or MK-012 about a foot over the hands for a rich recording without excessive breath noise (woodwind section). ... Mic a flute from above with a KM 84 or MK-012 about a foot over the hands (woodwind section).
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On stage
A Shure SM58 about an inch (3 cm) from the window and at about 60-90 degrees to it works for a band member, who can share it with backing vocals; he adds a pre-amp and compressor. A clip-on flute mic (strap or clamp type) is suggested, since flute mics are made for the third octave. One player uses an AKG C3000B 8-12 in away (about 3 in for low notes) for whistle and bagpipes. Kaufman points a cardioid dynamic at the top hole with a foam windscreen. On The Session, players use an SM57 or SM58 with foam, or a Sennheiser e945; one shares an SM57 between whistle and voice, close for the low octave and backed off for the shrill high octave; a Shure SM86 is suggested as a stage condenser.1,2,3
Problems to watch
Breath and wind noise (use windscreens or socks; keep a ribbon out of the air stream); level jumps between low and high notes; feedback with a close live mic.4,1,2
Sources
- Chiff & Fipple forum: New advice: How to mic a whistle
- Jeff Kaufman: Contra Dance Sound, Mic Placement
- The Session forum: discussion 50351 (mic for whistle, 2025; posters munro and AVJ)
- Chiff & Fipple forum: Recommendations On Microphones For Recording Tin Whistle?
- ProSoundWeb: A Guide to Microphone Techniques for Studio Recording, page 5
- Recording Magazine: Tough-To-Record Instruments From A to Z
- Wikipedia, Tin whistle
- Professional Composers: Orchestral and Acoustic Instrument Range Chart
- Jeff Kaufman: Quiet Pennywhistle
- Chiff and Fipple forum: High (and yes, I do mean high) A whistle, page 2 (post by Tinkerer)