Mic Archive

Bandoneon

Range
C2–B6
Sources
108 independent: not from a mic maker

What it is

The German-made bisonoric concertina of tango, also written bandoneón or bandonion; devised by Heinrich Band and now tied to Argentine and Uruguayan tango. Related to but different from the English concertina: each button gives a different note pushing and pulling, and there are no register switches.13,14

Range

C2 to B611,1265.4 Hz – 1.98 kHz

142-tone rheinische system; one source gives A6 at the top

The sound

Bellows air crosses reeds, with more than one reed per button, tuned an octave apart ("dry", with no vibrato beat). The left-hand box is a wooden box with a muted, nasal timbre; the right-hand sound is brighter and sharper.13

Where the sound goes

Sound comes from both boxes and the bellows move as with a concertina; no radiation measurement found. The sample-library session below gave the left box (bass), the right box and the room separate mics. Different notes leave through different sound holes, so a mic on one hole favours some notes. A mic at the centre hears mostly the bellows.1,7,5

About the range

The standard Argentine instrument is the 71-button, 142-tone rheinische system. One source says it is continuously chromatic from C to a''' (Helmholtz), which is C2 to A6; another gives C2 (left hand) to B6 (right hand), nearly five octaves. The two disagree by one note at the top; the conversion in the first is mine.11,12

Recording it

  • One mic each side: the classic setup in studio, live and broadcast, perpendicular to the keyboard; good isolation, but not true stereo. Pan each mic only a little. Forum engineers: dynamics or ribbons 1-3 ft back on each side, aimed just above the keys (MD 421 pair; Royer R-121 or R-122 pair; MD 409/609, e906, SM7, RE20 also named).
  • Pairs: XY overhead for the player's perspective, ORTF in front for the audience's, a spaced pair for three or more bandoneons. A spaced pair of KM 84s or a U 67 about 6 ft away keeps the mechanical noise down; a U 47 and a Royer R-122 gave good results; an AT4047/SV sounded best in one player's price range.
  • Ensembles: room mics carried the bandoneon's balance on a tango record.
  • A sample-library session by Guillermo Guareschi in Buenos Aires used a Neumann on the left hand, a ribbon mic for very low frequencies, a modified SE A5600 II tube mic on the right hand and an AKG for the ambience of a high-roofed room, all into vintage Telefunken preamps. Models of the Neumann, ribbon and AKG are not given. Recording Magazine's concertina advice (a pair in front) does not mention the bandoneon.2,6,5,4,3,1,15

Mics

No mic is named by more than one source yet: each names its own.

All the mics sources name, by setting and role (13)

Studio

Close

Spaced pairStereo pair

Room

ORTF

Overhead

X-Y

Distant

Spaced pair

The 15 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Close Neumann microphone (model not named)
    left hand (bass) box
    One Neumann microphone was in charge of register for the left hand where all the bass notes are generated.1
  • Close ribbon microphone
    left hand, very low frequencies
    An additional ribbon microphone handled the very low frequencies.1
  • Close SE Electronics A5600 II (modified)
    right hand (treble) box
    The right hand was captured by a modified SE A5600 II tube microphone.1
  • Room AKG microphone (model not named)
    room, high roof ambience
    An AKG was set to record the natural high roof ambience of the recording space.1
  • Overhead 2 × microphone pair (XY)
    pair, XY overhead (player's perspective); adjust distance and angle to reduce key noise
    XY overhead records what the player hears, 100% mono compatible; distance and angle can tame key noise; figure-8s give Blumlein for more room (paraphrase).2
  • Room 2 × microphone pair (ORTF)
    pair, ORTF in front (audience perspective); distance sets the source/room balance
    ORTF frontal gives a natural balance from the audience's point of view, very mono compatible and moderates key noise (paraphrase).2
  • Close 2 × cardioid microphone pair (spaced)
    pair, spaced pair in front; also covers three or more bandoneons at once
    "¡Esto sí es una toma estéreo!" - the classic broadcast technique, saves mics when recording three or more bandoneons (paraphrase).2
  • Room room microphones
    room, ambient mics carried the bandoneon's balance within ensembles (strings + bandoneon, winds + bandoneon), film-score session
    "resultó clave para la mezcla la toma de los micrófonos ambientales" - the bandoneon's central role was captured naturally by the room mics.3
  • Close Neumann U 47 or Royer R-122
    listed
    "Used both a U47 and a Royer R-122 with good results"4
  • Close Audio-Technica AT4047/SV
    listed
    "sounded best in my price range"5
  • Close 2 × Sennheiser MD 421
    pair, one dynamic on each side, 1-3 ft back, aimed just above the keys
    "dynamics at each side such as MD 421's. Helps decrease button noises"; "mic the sides. Mic about 1 to 3 feet back on each side, aimed just above the keys"5
  • Close 2 × Royer R-121 or R-122
    pair, one ribbon on each side, 1-3 ft back
    "I'd really look into a pair of ribbons, like Royer 121s or 122s"; also names MD 409/609, e906, SM7 and RE20 as softer dynamics that work.5
  • Distant 2 × Neumann KM 84
    pair, spaced, about 6 ft away to keep the mechanical noise down
    Used a spaced pair of KM84 about 6 ft away, another time a U67; would try an AEA R84 (paraphrase).5
  • Distant Neumann U 67
    distant, about 6 ft away
    Distance against the mechanical noise; a pair of small condensers reveals it, a ribbon or tube LDC hides it (paraphrase of kosi and soundpuretodd).5
  • Close 2 × microphone pair (one per side)
    pair, one mic on each side, each panned slightly (no extreme panning); harmonic role placed further back with the piano, melodic role further forward
    "El bandoneon lleva un mic de cada lado"; "un poquito paneado cada mic, para darle un espacio natural"; the source moves, and don't fight bellows/key noise.6

On stage

Close

Stereo pair

Clip-on

  • AKG C4191 source
  • DPA 40991 source from its own maker
  • Myers Feather-21 source from its own maker
  • Myers Grip Plus-6 with Bass Extension1 source from its own maker

Stereo pair

Built-in pickup

  • Shure Beta 981 source
The 8 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Close 2 × dynamic microphone
    pair, one mic each side of the bellows, the classic setup
    "Un micrófono que tome al bandoneon de una manera muy 'blanda', lo convierte en acordeon" - prefers dynamics; the setup is prone to feedback (paraphrase).7
  • Clip-on AKG C419
    clip-on, held on a small plate fixed with the bandoneon's own screws
    For more gain before feedback than stand mics (paraphrase).7
  • Built-in pickup Shure Beta 98
    internal, capsules taped over chosen sound holes
    The most gain before feedback, but it loses some of the magic; choose the holes, since different notes come out of different holes (paraphrase).7
  • Clip-on clip-on microphone
    clip-on, replacing stand mics so the distance to the instrument stays fixed
    Younger bandoneonists replace stand mics with clip mics "para olvidarse del problema de la distancia"; older players move against the stand mic as part of dynamics (paraphrase).2
  • Clip-on 2 × Myers Feather-2
    clip-on, pair: one on the treble grille, one on the bass side, routed clear of the hands
    Two mics on long cables to a powered preamp: one on the treble grille, the other on the bass side (paraphrase).8
  • Clip-on Myers Grip Plus-6 with Bass Extension
    clip-on, three mics: two 6 in mics on the treble side, one long Feather mic on the bass side
    Two 6" mics for the treble side and one long Feather mic for the bass side; preamp near the treble reeds and grille (paraphrase).8
  • Clip-on DPA 4099
    clip-on, magnetic piano holder
    Attached the DPA d:vote 4099s to Richard's accordion and bandoneon using magnetic piano holders with scratch tape.9
  • Close Free reeds advice cardioid dynamic pointed at the middle of the instrument from about 8 in
    close, live dance
    Sax, clarinet, bagpipes, accordion, concertina: point a mic at their middle from about 8 inches away and they should sound ok.10

Studio and stage

Distant

Stereo pair

The 1 setup behind this: placement and quotes
  • Distant 2 × cardioid microphone
    pair, A-B: one mic on each side (right hand, left hand), perpendicular to the keyboard, with some tilt; distance set by how far the player opens the bellows
    "colocar uno a cada lado, perpendicular al teclado" - the classic setup used in studio, live and broadcasting; best isolation, but not true stereo and phase cancels in mono (paraphrase).2

Advised against

  • Close t.bone RB500
    listed
    "muddy, unclear"4
  • Close condenser in the centre
    close, centred on the bellows
    "Center microphone will give you nothing but bellow noise"5
  • Close stand microphone
    close, single mic on a stand in front of the player
    "a bandoneon microphone on a stand cannot equally capture both the highs and lows of your bandoneon"; level also changes as the player moves.8

On stage

  • Clip-on mics keep the distance fixed; younger players use them, older players work a stand mic as part of their dynamics. Sound engineer Remi Bourcereau used DPA d:vote 4099 clip mics on Richard Galliano's accordion and bandoneon, held with magnetic piano holders and scratch tape on the clips (a DPA press piece). Myers sells two- and three-mic clip sets, treble grille plus bass side.
  • Gabriel Szkuhra, who teaches live sound in Argentina: one dynamic each side of the bellows is the classic setup, but prone to feedback; a mic that takes the bandoneon too "softly" makes it sound like an accordion. For more gain, AKG C419 clips on a small plate held by the instrument's own screws; for the most, Shure Beta 98 capsules taped over chosen sound holes, at some cost to the sound.2,9,8,7

Problems to watch

Mechanical (key and bellows) noise: a pair of small condensers reveals it, a ribbon or tube large condenser hides it, distance helps; a centre mic gets "nothing but bellow noise"; feedback with stand mics on stage; a single stand mic cannot catch both boxes evenly; phase cancellation when the side pair is summed to mono.5,7,8,2

Sources

  1. Best Service / Guareschi: The Bandoneon (sample library notes)engineer · bestservice.com
  2. Estudio Libres (Gonzalo Manco): Grabando un bandoneón: cinco técnicas alternativas (2017)engineer · estudiolibres.com.ar
  3. Estudio Libres (Sam Nacht): Tango surreal en El cielo del Centauro (2017)engineer · estudiolibres.com.ar
  4. Gearspace: bandoneon mic (High End forum, thread 165217; poster Martin Kantola)forum · gearspace.com
  5. Gearspace: bandoneon mic - what do you recommend? (So Much Gear, thread 165219; poster nandi)forum · gearspace.com
  6. Hispasonic forum: Mezclar disco de tango (vdbecke, 2010)forum · hispasonic.com
  7. Doctor ProAudio forum: Microfonía para un bandoneón (2010; Gabriel Szkuhra, live-sound teacher, Argentina)educational · foros.doctorproaudio.com
  8. Myers Pickups: Bandoneon pickup (2020)manufacturer · myerspickups.com
  9. ProSoundWeb / DPA: DPA Captures The Drama Of The Tango (Galliano tour, 2016 press piece)manufacturer · prosoundweb.com
  10. Jeff Kaufman: Contra Dance Sound, Mic PlacementJeff Kaufman · engineer · 2012 · jefftk.com
  11. Omar Caccia, Bisonoric 142 Bandoneon Keyboard Layout (search snippet only)omarcaccia.com
  12. Bandoneon Wuppertal (bando-bando.de), Das Bandoneon in der Musikbando-bando.de
  13. Wikipedia, Bandoneonreference · en.wikipedia.org
  14. Concertina Library, Concertina systems (bandoneon section)concertina.org
  15. Recording Magazine: Tough-To-Record Instruments From A to ZPaul Stamler · magazine · recordingmag.com