Mic Archive

Tuba

Range
D1–G4
Overtones to
about 1.2 kHz
Peaks up close
up to 128 dB SPL
Sources
53 independent: not from a mic maker

Range

D1 to about G4636.7 Hz – 392 Hz

F bass tuba (VSL). Pedal notes lower. BB-flat and CC tubas reach about the same low notes; their top is usually lower.

LowD1–F2ponderous, soft-edged
MiddleF#2–F3very full; the most used
HighF#3–G4loud and powerful

Overtones reach about 1.2 kHz (the highest harmonic within 40 dB of the strongest, at a moderate level; louder playing reaches higher)7.

Where the sound comes from

  • bell: faces along the bell axis (backwards on the horn); very directional12,4
  • The highs beam straight out along the bell axis; off axis sounds darker.12,4

The sound

Wide bore: the first few harmonics carry most of the energy and little remains above about 1 kHz at moderate loudness.

Where the sound goes

The bell points up and is large (over 18 in on some BBb tubas), so where on the bell the mic sits matters: Ross compares it to miking a large speaker, centre or edge, square or angled. Thomann says the tuba has little above 2-3 kHz, so the upward direction matters less than for other brass.2,3

How loud

Sound pressure level measurements as published. Different kinds of figure (a playing level, a peak, a dose at the player's ear) can't be compared with each other, and neither can figures at different distances.

Playing level
60–111 dB(Z)at 1 m; Tuba, derived from the TU Berlin sound power values estimate8
Peaks
106–110 dB(A)at the player; same study, LASmax (slow) per rehearsal or concert9
122–128 dB(C)at the player; same study, LCpeak per rehearsal or concert9
Dynamic range
51 dB(Z)sound power, whole range; Tuba, Weinzierl et al. 2018, Table I estimate8
Player's exposure (dosimeter)
87–91 dB(A)at the player (meters on tripods with microphones close to the players); Polish opera and symphony orchestras, group rehearsals, concerts and performances; 5 samples9
Sound power
113.1 dBmaximum sound power level Lw (re 1 pW), no distance; Sengpielaudio table of maximum possible sound power, row 'Basstuba' secondary10
71–122 dB(Z)sound power level Lw (dB re 1 pW), not a sound pressure at a distance; Tuba, single notes over the whole range played as soft and as loud as possible, anechoic chamber TU Berlin, 32-mic spherical array8

The Sound Advice table lines I could read (oboe, piccolo, sax, trumpet) have no tuba row. The TU Berlin anechoic measurement gives 71-122 dB sound power for single notes pp to ff; Polish orchestra studies put tuba players at 87-91 dB(A), with C-weighted peaks of 122-128 dB.11

Recording it

  • Where: the bell points up; a mic above the bell, or from the side for less air noise
  • Distance: 30–60 cm (1–2 ft) from the bell; on-axis bright, off-axis natural
  • Mics: a large-diaphragm condenser or a ribbon; in a brass section the section mics often suffice13,14

Estimate: Not found in the sources checked (general practice): Mics.

Mics

  1. AKG D112 2 sourcesClose
All the mics sources name, by setting and role (8)

Studio

Close

The 4 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Close large-diaphragm or dynamic (type only)
    close, 2 ft above the bell, 15 degrees off axis
    Position the mic about 2 feet over the top of the bell at about 15 degrees off axis of center.1
  • Close Neumann U 87 or AKG D 112 or beyerdynamic M 88
    close, 30-60 cm above the bell
    I've had success with a Neumann U 87, an AKG D112, and a beyerdynamic M 88.2
  • Close bass-instrument and kick-drum mics; large-diaphragm condenser
    close, one to two feet above the bell on a sturdy boom
    The tuba records well with the same mics one would use to record upright bass, a bass guitar amp, or kick drum.2
  • Close AKG D 112
    close, about 0.5 m above the bell
    The AKG D 112 for the lower frequency ranges; mic placed directly above the bell at about half a metre.3

On stage

Clip-on

Close

The 6 setups behind this: placement and quotes
  • Clip-on Shure BETA 98H/C
    clip-on, live, 1-2 ft from the bell
    BETA 98H/C, SM137 and PGA98H-XLR listed for brass; start 1 to 2 feet from the bell (guide lists by family; paraphrase).4
  • Close Shure SM137
    close, 1-2 ft from the bell
    BETA 98H/C, SM137 and PGA98H-XLR listed for brass; start 1 to 2 feet from the bell (guide lists by family; paraphrase).4
  • Clip-on Audix clip-on
    clip-on, for low frequencies
    The Audix clip-on is quite a sensible solution and custom-made for the lower frequency ranges.3
  • Clip-on Brass advice DPA 4099 CORE+
    clip-on for brass
    4099 for instrument-mounted live use gives more isolation and gain before feedback than the omni (paraphrase).5
  • Clip-on Brass advice DPA 4099 CORE+
    clip-on for brass
    The 4099 gives much more isolation and higher gain before feedback than the omni (paraphrase).5
  • Clip-on Brass advice Shure PGA98H-XLR
    clip-on, brass
    A condenser optimised for brass, with horn clamp and in-line preamp (paraphrase).4

Sources

  1. Bobby Owsinski: A Guide To Miking Brass Instruments (excerpt from The Recording Engineer's Handbook)educational · bobbyowsinskiblog.com
  2. Recording Magazine: Miking Brass and WindsBob Ross · magazine · recordingmag.com
  3. Thomann Online Expert: Recording wind instruments, brassretailer · thomann.co.uk
  4. Shure: How to Choose the Best Mics for Brass, Wind, and String Instrumentsmanufacturer · shure.com
  5. DPA Mic University: How to mic a trumpet and trombonemanufacturer · dpamicrophones.com
  6. Vienna Symphonic Library Academy: Bass tubaeducational · vsl.co.at
  7. SHARC Timbre Database v2 (Gregory Sandell): harmonic analyses of McGill University Master SamplesGregory Sandell · academic · github.com
  8. JASA: Sound power and timbre as cues for the dynamic strength of orchestral instruments (Weinzierl, Lepa, Schultz, Detzner, von Coler, Behler)Stefan Weinzierl et al. · academic · 2018-09 · depositonce.tu-berlin.de
  9. JOSE: Evaluation of Sound Exposure and Risk of Hearing Impairment in Orchestral Musicians (Pawlaczyk-Luszczynska, Dudarewicz, Zamojska, Sliwinska-Kowalska)Malgorzata Pawlaczyk-Luszczynska et al. · academic · 2011 · portal.ciop.pl
  10. Sengpielaudio (UdK Berlin): Stoerquelle - Musikinstrument? (maximum sound power of instruments)Eberhard Sengpiel · educational · 2006-05 · sengpielaudio.com
  11. Representative noise levels table with orchestra noise guidance (UK Sound Advice material)eclass-b.uoa.gr
  12. Sound On Sound: Q. How do I record brass in the home studio?Paul White and Hugh Robjohns · magazine · 2008-03 · soundonsound.com
  13. Shure: Microphone Techniques for Live Sound Reinforcementmanufacturer · 2007 · music.arts.uci.edu
  14. Sound On Sound: Recording Brass & ReedsHugh Robjohns · magazine · 1999 · soundonsound.com